Recently, I’ve been looking a good job in my field, something that helps people, and contributes to society.

One of the places that i looked into working for was Epic. The specific position I applied for was “Problem Solver”, and the job entailed some light programing, as well as trouble shooting clients. not a help desk position, but I was promised that each problem would be new and exciting. As the Interview process wore on, I queried the internet to try and figure out what to expect. i found nothing.
After the initial application, a follow-up phone interview was arranged. they were very thoughtful about this; not only did they ask what a good time would be to talk to me, they also asked for the timezone. “pretty slick” I thought. I did a person search on my interviewer on Myspace and Facebook, and found that he did have a Facebook account, but was on a different network, so i really couldn’t see too much. I did notice that he graduated from Harvard in ‘03. lots of people were on the Epic network, which was kinda cool.
The phone interview went kind of shaky, with lots of quite pauses. I didn’t really feel that i did well in the question answering either, but somehow, Epic wanted to move on to the next step of taking me to Corporate HQ in Verona WI.
They provided travel arrangements, hotel accommodations (at the Hilton, which was really pricey), food, and taxis. everything was taken care of for me. it was pretty considerate.
The Interview started at 8 am, when i needed to leave for the interview from the hotel. There were a few other candidates that stayed in the same hotel as i did, and i found out later that a few other candidates stayed at other hotels. everyone was interviewing for different positions, so it wasn’t too bad. However, no one knew at the time, and the 30 min cab ride was pretty tense.
The cab driver was an older gentleman, than looked a little out of place in a straw hat, overalls, and a gazillion commemorative pins in that hat. he was overweight, and had a white beard.
When we got to HQ, we were all pretty amazed at the size of the place. it was about the size of a community college in terms of number of buildings, but had 400 acres of land. they were building more office space even.
The interview kicked off with a brief overview of the day, then a tour of the building, and then a demo of the product. On the tour of the buildings, we were shown how beautiful it was. the courtyard had well trimmed trees shrubs, and a small water feature running though it. the insides of the buildings were decked out in art, and each building had a theme (Scandinavian, Jungle, Eclectic, etc). The demo was okay, the guy seemed like he did it a lot, and was kind of slick about all of it. for some reason I saw a lot of an older, overweight gentleman with a white beard during the demo, that looked a lot like the cab driver. I chalked it up to coincidence, because the guy in the demo was a CEO.
after that, we broke up into groups to talk to people in the are that we were interviewing for. Two other people and myself talked to a Technical Services guy for about half an hour about the job. a few of the points he stressed were that “everyone gets offices. everyone!” and “after 5 years you can be a guru in your field”. I thought both of those were pretty silly things to talk about, but i guess they were pretty important to him. he also told us it would be good to ask lots of questions later in the day. I nearly responded with a quick “why?” but thought better of it. in hindsight, i really should have.
After this was Lunch. Lunch was served in a big room, with large windows over looking a deck, that over looked the 400 acres of land, that over looked the rest of Wisconsin. Wisconsin is pretty flat, so you could see quite a bit of it. the food was pretty cheap, my meal of a veggie sandwich, salad, and coke came to about $ 4.50 . Epic picked up this too. I had company at lunch in the form of another interviewer. I guess this one was just to feel out what kind of personality i had, so we just talked about stuff for a bit. Absolutely no agenda here.
Then the real interviews started. First was a person from the Tech services dept, and she had an “overview, then an interview”. the overview was a more detailed description of what the tech services guy said before, and she had some power point slides on her computer that she showed me. Then the interview. The interview was pretty crappy. I wasn’t prepared to answer questions like “Describe a situation to me where you thought you did something right the first time, went back to it, and later found out that you did it incorrectly”. lots of those. lots of “tell me about a time when…” and they usually were pretty specific. I tried to be perfectly honest about the whole thing, telling them that I didn’t know when i didn’t know, but many of the questions she asked went un answered, or i felt the need to go off on a tangent to get in some talking time. nothing i said was evaluated by them, they simply wrote down the points i made, and asked the next one. very crummy.
After this was the interview by HR. and this was the worst ever. nothing to do with my field. no real point to these questions either, just the standard bullshit HR questions. “where do you see yourself in 5 years?” “what would so-and-so say were your greatest strengths and weaknesses” . you know, all the really shitty HR questions. I wasn’t prepared for this, so i think i blew this part too. the worst was when salary negations came up – “what do you expect to make?” i shoot off a number, and ask her what they were thinking of paying me, and the she goes “well, we really don’t negotiate salaries; we pay what we think in competitive for your level”.
Finally, after this, was the Test portion of the interview. there were 3 tests i was asked to take, and was asked to record my time as well for each portion. there was also a 2 minute test, that tested how quickly i could think. i was all alone in an office, with 3 clocks on the wall. they allowed me to wander around if i needed to, and use the bathroom too. They were assholes when they interviewed, but they were pretty attentive to my needs. I also had to sign something saying that i wouldn’t publish the test questions, or answers. The 3 tests i took were on programing, something about thinking again (math [algebra mostly], logic, and another easy subject), and then something else on programing.
The first test on programing was how to use a language that they made up; it focused on comprehension and boolean logic, and lots of evaluate the statement : A = true, B=true, is ‘A OR B’ true, false,undetermined, or none of the above (multiple choice stuff). It was a lot like my C++ class, but used arrays. I think i did okay on that one.
The other programing test was to write code for some simple programing problems. you had your choice of C++, pseudo code, and a few other languages. they also asked me if i wanted to use a language that wasn’t listed. This was not multiple choice. you just had to write down the answers in the blue notebook you were given. I think i should have gotten somewhere around 75%.
I turned in the tests, and was done. a taxi took me to the airport, and i got on a plane, and left.
They called me back in a week about the job. pretty nice of them.
Tags: Epicsystems, interview at epic
July 5, 2008 at 3:16 am |
… and you can bet they are reading this, thanks to the google alerts.
July 7, 2008 at 8:31 pm |
That’s how I found it – google alerts
July 7, 2008 at 9:55 pm |
did you get the job?
July 8, 2008 at 5:46 pm |
I went through the same interview process, got the job, and then ended up leaving after 9 months. Epic has great products but it’s a miserable place to work. They lure in fresh college meat with perks such as individual offices, free coffee/juice/milk/microwave popcorn, extremely casual dress, etc. and then basically ruin your life. First of all, the creative and free-form work environment they imply is BS. You will have three or four different managers, each of which will need to meet with you at least once of month. Your primary manager(s) will be 23 or 24 year old power-tripping nerds. You will have a ton of other scheduled reoccurring meetings that happen whether needed or not. You will likely be rushed into service before your training is complete. You will travel to god-awful places to spend 10 hours a day in the basement of a hospital. When you get done with these days at the client site you will go back to your hotel and either meet with your team for a few more hours or do more work in your room.
Sound fun? Give it a try if they give you a good offer but have a backup plan should you start to feel deja vu of the above scenario. Best of luck!
July 11, 2008 at 10:12 pm |
Epic is far from a miserable place to work. BMadison just couldn’t hack it
July 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm |
Had never heard of Epic Systems until yesterday when it was brought to my attention by a recent college grad looking for a job. I would like to address the issues you had with the interview process. What you have described in the first interview is a stand interviewing technique used by many companies called STAR which tries to identify traits in the individual that can predict how they will function on the job. It also highlights how you respond to different situations. There are no right or wrong answers, just how well you can respond in a cohesive and coherent fashion. The examples that you use need not have anything to do directly with the job you are appying for.
July 28, 2008 at 7:03 pm |
Haha – found this and was about to write that they will be watching your blog! Someone already beat me to it.
Be careful what you write if you do get the job. As a former employee (left to go to grad. school), I know that you can quickly incur their wrath if you write much of anything (especially critical) about the company. Paranoia of blogs (and the web in general) is an understated way of describing the company’s general attitude.
I’ll offer a general ditto to BMadison’s comments, though I stayed two years and found that saying “no” frequently was a good way to never work much over 40 hours a week.
August 8, 2008 at 7:47 pm |
I interviewed for the same position and would like to know, what was your starting pay and when did you start?
August 22, 2008 at 7:07 pm |
I was also wondering what your salary offer is.
September 10, 2008 at 5:08 am |
As a former MEDITECH employee, Epic most likely stressed the “offices,” as MEDITECH (another HCIS vendor) has a majority of folks in cubicles. MEDITECH also hires quite a few folks right out of college. New graduates need experience, and can get it at MEDITECH (and Epic). You may not like working at either place, but the experience you gain is invaluable for future employment. You can learn more working for the vendor than you can as a hospital employee. If you travel, you will work over 40 hours per week, but you will travel to locations that you wouldn’t be able to afford if you had a “regular” non-travel job. Bottom line: If you’re a new grad, you need experience, need to learn how the HCIS industry works before you gain credibility, and you’ll need to work over 40 hours per week. In order to climb the career (& salary) ladder, you’ll need to put in (free) overtime. You may think you know it all after college, but surprise…you are starting as low man on the totem pole. Many of us have been in this field for many years and had to start out exactly where you did. Good luck in your job search.
September 10, 2008 at 1:57 pm |
“you know, all the really shitty HR questions. I wasn’t prepared for this, so i think i blew this part too.”
LMAO!
Next time you interview with someone, expect to get asked the typical HR questions… Seriously??
You kind of sound like Holden Caufield, complete with the use of “crummy” later on.
September 10, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
Epic is pretty miserable, and pretty paranoid as well. The office thing isn’t true, half the company still is working in cubes. And of course, there’s a few folks who like it, and blog that the large number of folks who leave “couldn’t hack it”.
September 10, 2008 at 8:23 pm |
Ha…this is normal for HIS companies apparently. I interviewed at Cerner and it was the same exact thing. Whine and dine you then try and trick you into working for them. Too bad most desperate college grads will take any job thrown their way.
October 31, 2008 at 4:24 am |
can you please tell me the questions that you where asked in the skills assesment test ??? I have a test coming up soon
November 11, 2008 at 2:50 pm |
what if i’ve not given the correct GPA in my resume? I put 3.5 (the expected GPA when I graduate) but my current GPA is 3.2… I have talent, its just that I took some real tough courses!!! Please help!!!
January 9, 2009 at 7:19 pm |
A message to Michael B, who posted earlier in this thread!
Michael… Cliff here. You and I used to work together at Epic! Same bldg, same floor, just around the corner from each other. I left Epic in Nov ‘07. Weird seeing your name on this site.
Look me up in Facebook, if you want to reconnect (and debrief). I actually get together for lunch once in a while with three other former Epic employees. We should start a support group.
Later,
Cliff
March 20, 2009 at 6:56 pm |
What are the interview questions that are asked?
What are the salaries for the positions?
What are the tests and Test Questions?
July 15, 2009 at 4:02 pm |
I’m wondering if anyone can help me out here with a resume issue. I tried submitting my resume on Epic’s site, but I’d really hate to just copy and paste the text of my document into their text editor–unformatted. So I tried formatting my resume with html, with an embedded CSS style sheet, but I don’t know if it would display correctly. How did you submit your resume on Epic’s site? I’m mainly a writer, so I’m not totally up on all this… although, I do know some things about Web code.
August 8, 2009 at 7:25 pm |
Stay far, far away from Epic. You might get paired with a power-tripping female boss severely lacking in leadership skills who will talk down to you, make you work 70 hour weeks, and generally make your life miserable. And it’s such a luck of the draw – your workload is almost entirely determined by the application to which you are assigned. How is that determined? By who is quitting month-to-month. Honestly, unless hospital workflows and technical jargon really excite you (and if you are single and under 25), you need to reconsider taking this job. Also, if you have any kind of public service orientation or interest in the world around you (i.e. you read the news daily), you need to think long and hard about that nice, big salary Epic offers you. It doesn’t amount to much when spread over all the hours you work. Boo!
August 11, 2009 at 4:31 am |
What a bunch of Whiners!! Epic Systems has been a really good company for me. I have not had one problem since I started. It seems to me that the people that complain against the company are the ones that have a hard time actually working. Have you never gone above and beyond before? The benefits are great and the job is a job.
For those of you looking fr answers to test questions, grow up this is not high school, the test are placement test to see if you are able to work here. If you fail the test you would most likely fail at your job. What would be worse not getting the job or being fired for incompetence?
September 4, 2009 at 12:47 am |
I’ve never heard of this company but, wow, this company seems very similar to a lot of other tech/engineering services companies I hear about. I’m sure each person’s experience is different and some people that seem like they ‘can’t hack it’, or ‘don’t like to work’ as the Epic web monitor and employee state above probably have just eventually left after getting burnt out or run out of the company. Long work hours are crummy and tyrant bosses make them crummier, tyrant bosses that don’t know what they’re talking about or asking for make it the crummiest. However, this is the corporate american way! If the employees that like working for these companies can turn a blind eye to the cold reality of it all, then more power to them. Happiness in Slavery! Fresh college grads are young and energetic and are perfect targets for these companies… fresh meat to consume, until they get burned out and then leave, then they just get more young grads and start the whole cycle again, some people stay because they’ve learned to get by in a system like that without getting burned out… and I would say its not because they can ‘hack it’ its because they’ve figured out who’s ass to kiss or what people above them they can influence or befriend and this gets them up the proverbial corporate ladder. By far I have seen more people ‘make it’ in places like this because they were shrewd individuals and it had nothing to do with what they knew or how well they knew it.
. At the end of the day just make sure you feel good about who you work for and the people you work with.
With that said… for anyone who is considering positions with companies like this, consider what your work hours will be (and don’t think its going to be a straight 40, because when you’re pouring your heart and soul into that project or ‘product’ and really trying to make a difference, you will definitely spend more than 40 hours a week) and divide your weekly salary by by those hours and that is your new hourly pay (slightly different than what’s posted on your paycheck isn’t it?). Also, benefits are pretty standard for professionals with a college degree these days so while its a convenience I wouldn’t let that become a major selling point. Consider your quality of the life that you are going to have while working for a company like this… would you want to be working like this when you are 50? Do you think you can have a stable relationship while working all those hours and burning yourself out? And for those people who didn’t ‘hack it’, I’m sure you can find instances of people in the company that got paid a lot more for doing a lot less right?
But by all means, take a job like this, it’s a character building experience…
Take it from someone who did go above and beyond only to find nothing over the horizon but more bullshit. Really think about how a job like this is going to help you 5 years from now… Consider another thing too, company business models like this aren’t designed to retain people past 2-3 years, unless they’re willing to sell their soul to the company. So figure into your 5 year plan that you will most likely not be working for this company in 2. In your career pathway, it’s not what you can do for them, it’s what they can do for you, from experience to pay, they are paying you to deal with their bullshit and clients so they better pay you well. And of course I’m not condoning giving jobs to slackers! Always work hard, nothing bad can come from good, old fashioned hard work
October 4, 2009 at 1:45 am |
I have interview with Epic! for the post of Software development position…
Kindly help if anyone can
October 29, 2009 at 3:00 am |
I have an onsite interview in 5 days. I know all i can do now is just prepare myself and give my best shot…any last minute tips…??
October 30, 2009 at 3:32 am |
Hey!! guys !!! Post your interviews if you are done already, might be helpful to others !!
October 30, 2009 at 4:10 am |
HEY WhtsmyFuture when did you write the test? and after you wrote it how much time they took to get back to you?
Any help will be appreciated
November 3, 2009 at 1:30 pm |
Hi there,
I got contacted for Software Dev. and just posted my resume at their website. It’s been very interesting to read your posts, keep ‘em coming!